got purpose?

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I think the following pretty much sums up what I keep seeing out there regarding mutation...

"Mutation can't create the immense amounts of useful information required for creative evolution. Even the exceptional mutations that have beneficial effects (like the human sickle-cell gene) do not involve the creation of new organs or capabilities. The developmental mutations on which you [Kenneth Miller, whom he is debating] rely are no exception. Most are harmful, and the few that are not only explain the loss of a structure, or its replacement by a pre-existing one in the same organism, never the emergence of a new complex organ. Adding natural selection to the mechanism doesn't help, because selective death only preserves what mutation has already created."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/odyssey/debate/deb08joh1209.html )

The mechanism of obtaining "truth" in science has already been defined by Bacon. Sadly, this mechanism is all but ignored in the name of modern "science". As Lewontin has stated in the New York Review, "...we have a prior commitment to materialism." So, belief in this stuff is maintained regardless of the evidence, not because of it. Again, the whole evolutionary lie started at least as far back as Epicurius in the 3rd century a.d., not because of any discovery, but by preference for a hedonistic lifestyle.

Tim

Tim - Oct 23 2003
The Game According to Hoyle

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yeah, I agree! By the way, it's VERY ironic that you mention "order". I'm working on the next one. Maybe I'll send you a sample...

Tim - Oct 22 2003
The Game According to Hoyle

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My pleasure!

Tim - Oct 22 2003
Don't take no Einstein...

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Yup! Read it! Have it!

Tim - Oct 22 2003
Don't take no Einstein...

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Yup!

The other day on the radio, I heard a story of something that allegedly happened to him on a train trip. He was unable to produce his ticket for the ticket agent. He kept looking for it but the agent finally said "That's ok, Mr Einstein, we know you have a ticket." The agent walked away and, turning around, saw him on the floor of the train car looking for the ticket he was so far unable to find. The agent again reassured him that there was no need for concern. Albert Einstein said "Well, I know I had the ticket, but I can't remember where I was going!".

Gotta love him!

Tim - Oct 22 2003
Don't take no Einstein...

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Yeah, he knew his stuff even if he did have his quirky personality...besides that just made him more human! I made the picture crooked because it fit my impression of him!

Tim - Oct 22 2003
Don't take no Einstein...

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Thanks! I like this one too. The colors...and thanks for the great feedback! It's been on my hard disk for maybe a month now.

Yeah, the trumpet work is coming along. Got a friend who plays pro who is helping me get a *small* recording studio together and learn some good tricks. LOVE IT!

Again, thanks for the praise!

Tim - Oct 22 2003
got purpose?

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Nope. I don't buy that. We just don't even live that way. Whenever we see things, we assume they were made. Oh, wait a minute...was that a humvee that popped into my drive? No, they are made...same with everything else. When is the last time anything like this was observed? Things don't just pop into existence. We expect things to have a maker. Somehow, when it comes to the origin of life, we get mystical about how matter created itself out of nothing. No, it makes more sense to believe it was *made*.

Take 50 oranges. put them in a box. I'll give you as many chances as you want to see if you can dump them out and they arrange themselves in 5 rows of 10. Go ahead. TRY IT! That's order out of disorder.

Where did the space for the universe come from? How can life come from dead matter? How does this fit with the laws of Biogenesis and Thermodynamics? Do we just *toss them out*?

A number of *top* evolutionary scientists have openly admitted that they believe what they do *in spite of the evidence* not *because* of it. Evolution, in fact, goes back to at least Epicurius in the third century who believed so by choice...he wanted to justify his hedonism. So, it didn't start based on *science*. *and by science I mean the BACONIAN scientific method.

One "find" after another is debunked as fraud...Nebraska man turns out to be an artwork based on a *PIGS TOOTH*. Another is found to be based on an animal's jawbone. Is this science?

It takes more faith to believe that "noone + nothing = everything" than it does to believe that "someone * nothing = everything".

Again, it is God's Word that says that the things of God are spiritually discerned...It takes a work of God's Spirit to open the eyes of those who can't see. Sorry...but that is God's appraisal of those who don't know Him...especially those who choose the path you are on. I used to be that way too! It was God's grace that made the difference.


Tim - Oct 21 2003
Life is a Dash...

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Nope. Life is the "dash" between life and death. It has a beginning -- and an end. So, what do YOU have planned after the end of this life...after the "dash"...after the *moment* is over?

Tim - Oct 21 2003
got purpose?

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Your answers demonstrate a demand that IF God exists, he be man-sized. Not the GOD of the Bible. Having created a God with such limitations, you attack that straw man and then act as if you've dealt with the real thing. You haven't.

You mock at the idea of God, while you swallow the idea of things popping into existence on their own (from what?).

That's certainly your choice. That being the case, I pray that God will somehow wake your heart as He did mine.

Blessings to you,

Tim - Oct 21 2003
Life is a Dash...

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:) - Oct 20 2003
got purpose?

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Excuse me....in the above, change "informities" to "Deformities". I have no idea why I said that!

Tim - Oct 20 2003
got purpose?

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The fact that GOd is omnicient is a very comforting thing to the believer. It means that nothing we do surprises Him...and no matter what, he provides for us.

*** The chief end of man is to glorify God and (in turn) ENJOY HIM FOREVER".
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I don't enjoy the thought of some almighty i-know-what-you-will-do-next-summer big brother guy. I don't believe that a god exists, but if it does, that's not a good thing.



***God doesn't == determinism. You do have a choice. God says "I set before you life and death...choose life".
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Wait, wait, wait. That doesn't fit into christian mythology, does it? If I recall correctly, god is considered to be omniscient. So...if I can choose freely, how can god be omniscient? I mean, if god knows what I'll choose, I don't have an actual choice. If he doesn't, god isn't omniscient, which casts some serious doubt about his godliness.


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No, you are presenting a false dilemma. Knowing everyting ahead of time doesn't necessitate determinism, just foreknowlege. Again, this is a comfort to us believers.
******


(...) who recognized Him for who he was (is).
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Such as an executed criminal? Traitor to the Roman Empire, if I recall correctly. That is, in case he actually existed, as that's not proven either.

****
Wrong on both counts. SECULAR historians have verified the fact that He lived...such as Josephus and Tertullian among others. Secondly, he was "set up" by the Jewish leaders of His day because he was a threat to their system. Even Herod said "I find no fault in this man."
****


***God is HOLY. He is also Just. He would be perfectly in his rights to blow us all away and send us to Hell immediately.
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I already told you what I thought of that big brother guy.
***WE'll get to that...***



In any event, the real issue is not the here and now, but eternity.
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I've read Descartes, so I don't ask you for actual proof. But do you have some evidence (some that is not based on scripture of some kind) that an eternity actually exists? As experience teaches that nothing is eternal, your claims seem pretty...implausible...to me.

****
Well, in American courts, we allow the defense to speak on it's own behalf. That's not circular. Besides, the Bible has been demonstrated accurate....parts of it by the very people who sought to destroy it...Sir WIllam Ramsay became a believer while trying to destry the Gospel of Luke. He pronounced that Luke was "an historian of the first order" and that Luke is totally reliable. Read it.


The question is, what will you do with Christ?
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The Romans did a pretty good job, so I don't think I will have to bother.

****
No, it was your sin and mine that put Christ on the cross. I wish you understood and appreciated what that meant for you.
****

****The proverbs say that "The fool has said in his heart that there is no God." And even Darwin recognized in his "origin of the species" that his ideas were full of problems.
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The problems you're talking about mainly were that his theory didn't fit into Darwins (christan) beliefs. There are, however, no inconsistencies in the theory itself that I am aware of. Evolution is, as a matter of fact, a pretty obvious mathematical necessity wherever mutation and election exist. Once you understand that the term 'fittest' doesn't equal strongest, but 'most likely to survive the election process for a long time', this becomes clearer. The survival usually implies spreading as widely as possible. The mutation is needed to introduce an element of innovation. This does not only apply to genes, but to a lot of other things as well. Ideas, for example. Fire was obviously a pretty 'fit' idea, as was religion, the wheel and suicide (which shows that a 'fit' idea does not have to be commonly considered 'good').

***
No, I'm referring to Darwin having a problem with the lack of fossils and other problems such as the absurdity (as he called it) of thinking the eye could have evolved.

Mutations? No, mutations lead to a LOSS of information, not an addition of information. We call these "informities".
****


And by the way the earth is not a pancake!
*** I'm glad you found that out!
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The funny thing is, even the ancient Greek found that out, and it was the catholic church that 'undiscovered' it, because an earth-centered universe fitted their theory that we were the only reason the universe actually existed better. Talk about hypocrisy.

***
Be careful not to confuse the Catholic institution with biblical Christianity. Not the same. Christianity = a personal relationship with God through Christ. Roman Catholicism is a religion based on works salvation. That's not biblical Chrisianity.
***


That's my 2ยข on the matter. If you find this offending - think about how offending I may find your postings once you write the next one. Thank you.

***
On the contrary, I don't find it offensive. No offense, but I don't get offended when a blind person steps on my toes and this is the same kind of thing. THe scriptures teach that the things of God are spiritually discerned. No one can understand them save they have the Spirit's assistance. So, I don't take offense. You just haven't yet had the experience of God opening your eyes, which is what the Spirit had to do with me.

When I came to Christ, I was alone, no radio, no TV, just maybe some rock music in the background. I was browsing the net, looking at nothing having to do with religion, when suddenly I became vividly aware that I was a sinner before a holy God...and that I needed forgiveness. I was compelled to get on my knees and ask for forgiveness. It wasn't till later that I found out what I was experiencing is in the Bible. AFter that, the Scriptures took on new meaning. They literally 'speak' at times. It is no longer just "a book". It's a living document though which God speaks to His people.

Since my conversion, I have seen countless times when God has intervened on my behalf. When my wife and I have been short on cash (and other types of things), God has provided...in ways that cannot be explained by 'coincidence'. It's simply happened too many times.

I can't convince you of anything against your will...all I can do is try to answer your questions the best I can. May the Lord help you see what He has shown countless others...

Praying for you...

TIm - Oct 20 2003
got purpose?

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"you were planned for god's pleasure"
So we are just slaves?? And our only purpose is to serve god?! Does that make any sense??

*** The chief end of man is to glorify God and (in turn) ENJOY HIM FOREVER".

We were made to enjoy fellowship with God. Let me tell you from experience that you can have everything else...and my relationship with Christ more than makes up for all of it! Paul said "I count all things as loss that I may gain Christ". I know what he meant!

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"If and just if everything that happens around us is planned what's the meaning of life? If I can't decide what to do whay should I live?"

***God doesn't == determinism. You do have a choice. God says "I set before you life and death...choose life". You can either be the thief on the left side of Christ who cursed him or you can be the thief on the right who recognized Him for who he was (is).

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"Another very relevant question. What has all the starving people in for example Africa done wrong to deserve that fate? Cause everything that happens is gods will and he/she has this pre-made plan, right?"


***God is HOLY. He is also Just. He would be perfectly in his rights to blow us all away and send us to Hell immediately. THAT, my friend, is what we deserve. It is his mercy that keeps him from doing that.

There are many CHristian organizations that seek to feed those people in Africa. Have you done anything?

In any event, the real issue is not the here and now, but eternity. This life is no more significant than a dot in the middle of the pacific ocean by comparison.

The question is, what will you do with Christ?

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"Darwin was a wise man. "

****The proverbs say that "The fool has said in his heart that there is no God." And even Darwin recognized in his "origin of the species" that his ideas were full of problems.

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And by the way the earth is not a pancake!


*** I'm glad you found that out!

Tim - Oct 20 2003
got purpose?

Wallpaper Other by uninet 26 comments

That's ok; God doesn't believe in atheists!

Tim - Oct 20 2003
Got Christ?

Wallpaper Other by timbrown527 130 comments

One more thought...

"'If they do not listen to Moses and the "Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.' "

...and by the way, Jesus DID rise from the dead...but as He said, if you won't accept the scriptures, that won't help you a bit.

Tim - Oct 18 2003
Got Christ?

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...and let's allow Jesus Christ to give an illustration as to what happened after his foolish decision...Jesus told this as a recount of something that really happened...not a "parable"...:

"The rich man also died and was buried. In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'
"But Abraham replied, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.'
"He answered, 'Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.'
"Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.'
" 'No, father Abraham,' he said, 'but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.'
"He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.' "

Tim - Oct 18 2003
Got Christ?

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...and if I'm not mistaken, Hitler (who did what he did as a result of his darwinian pursuasion) hijacked the Christian name and (ab)used it for his own ends. This is an example of the wrong use of religion.

You know, I submit what I submit for other believers. This kind of stuff is just incidental; there are always going to be people who are angry at God, or percieved wrongs, etc. But what we all need to be careful of is making generalizations. That's why I'm CONSTANTLY finding myself trying to clarify what "Christianity" really is...because it has come to mean anyone who says they are a Christian or someone who was baptized as a child, or grew up in a Catholic church, etc., etc., etc...

That's not it!

You can tell that it's about anger because they aren't taking the time to notice that there are people here who are downloading my submissions. Lots of people saying that "noone will use it". I beg to differ!

So, I think it's about anger more than anything else.

Thanks for your comments. I appreciate it!

Tim - Oct 18 2003
Got Christ?

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Hi Chris:

I agree; I don't know how many times I've heard dad give testimonies of conversions in the trenches during WWII. "There are no atheists in foxholes".

Tim - Oct 18 2003
Got Christ?

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Two things:

1. This is an open forum and there are people like me who are looking for this.

2. You may be saying that Christianity is private, but Jesus Christ said it is not. He has commanded us to take it to the public.

That's it!

TIm - Oct 18 2003
Got Christ?

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Thanks for clarifying, GVS, I appreciate that. Let's take a look at them:

Believe without questions
*** Scriptures don't teach this. I don't believe this.

Do not use anti-conception
*** This sounds like Catholicism, not evangelical Christianity. I don't agree with this.

Do not live together outside marriage
*** Yup. The bible is clear on this.

Sex is bad (pardon the use of this direct language)

*** Don't worry, no offense taken. God created sex for enjoyment and procreation between a man and his wife. Nothing bad about it.

Other kinds of people will burn in hell
*** Jesus tought that the only way to be saved is through the new birth. He tought that HE is the way and no one else.

People who die young do so for a reason (aka they did something wrong)
**** This is false teaching. CHrist himself dealt with something similar to this in the Gospel of John. We ALL have fallen short of the glory of GOd. WE are ALL sinners. The only question is have we recieved the forgiveness that God extends to us through Christ. You know, years ago I was into online porn, and some stuff that opened doors to the occult. I'm still here! God doesn't strike us dead for committing a sin. He shows us mercy by keeping us alive, and extends his Grace to us through the work of Christ.

Forgive me if I'm wrong. I know more than a few beleivers who attend a Catholic church...but these teachings (except for two) don't reflect good bible teaching...just dogma.

Thanks, and I hope this helps.

Tim - Oct 17 2003
Got Christ?

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Hi Alethia!

Yes, I think there is more to it. WHy is it that "Jesus" is the name that is ok to run through the dirt but NOT bow to? Why don't people abuse the name of Buddah or thier wives?

*There is something about that name*

Jesus Christ is Lord. He is God come in human flesh, who died for us. HE's not popular because he violates the rules of "Tolerance"...He makes very exclusive claims and rightly so!

In a day where we say there are a thousand ways to God, He says He is "THE way".

To a tolerant community, that is blasphemy.

But it's true!

Tim
- Oct 17 2003
Got Christ?

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Three things:

My work is what I am responsible for. I am NOT responsible for retaliatory work, which is the decision of other individuals. Nor am I responsible for posts entered as arguments. However, if I am asked a reasonable question, I will answer it.

Second. This is an "open" board...and there is a group here that wants the work. Just as others want some of the other *controversial* stuff.

Thirdly, I reject "non-offense" as a criteria for appropriateness. Frankly, too many people have skins for everything but themselves!

I could cry about alot of stuff I see on here, but I don't. I have *yet* to post one negative comment for anything on KDE-LOOK. It's a choice. If you don't like it, pass it by!

Thanks,

Tim - Oct 17 2003
Got Christ?

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*diseased ideals*

Let's see...the commandments that relate to people...

Don't kill,
Don't Steal,
Don't covet,
DOn't cheat on your wife,
Respect your parents,
Don't lie.....

and on.

WHich one of these is *diseased?*

Tim - Oct 17 2003
Got Christ?

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You DID say *Keep it to yourself*. That is what I'm addressing.

To *keep it to myself* is a direct conflict with the charge given believers. You are assuming, I think, that CHristanity is a "private" thing. Personal, not private.

It's not.

Tim - Oct 17 2003
Got Christ?

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GVS:

You said:

*you may not use the absence of any evidence that it is there as proof that it doesn't exist*

Then later you turn around and say there is no evidence for the existence of God, only that people think He exists, like Elvis.

UHmmmm...you can't have it both ways. You seem bound and determined to use the "lack of evidence" as an excuse to prop up evolution and at the same time shoot down theism!

That is intellectual dishonesty!

Tim - Oct 17 2003
Got Christ?

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No, the laws of thermodynamics prohibit eternality of matter. The law of energy conservation says that no new energy is being created, just consumed. Things go from order to disorder. Things run down.

Evolution says things are going uphill, which is contrary to the 2nd law of thermodynamics which states things go from order to disorder.

The law of biogenesis says that life comes from life, not dead matter. My coffee cup will not produce a living form of life. It's just fired clay! Does the law of Biogenesis mean anything or are we just tossing that out to get our theory to work? And if we accept that, then *anything* can pop into being from *anywhere* at *anytime*. Have you observed that at all? I don't think so!
So, we're back to cleaning my garage and waiting for a new chevy to appear ex nihilo!

Life can only come from life. God is/was that life!

What makes more sense? That things were made by someone (which is how you really live) or that things just *pop* into existence? Don't you expect a manufacturer of the things you own?

Thanks,

Tim - Oct 17 2003
Got Christ?

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AriesTheImpaler (what a nic!)

Personhood = Mind, emotion and will. Man is uniquely created in God's image with these attributes. God is spirit, we are physical but we both have these three things...this is what was meant by the "image of God". Nothing physical.

You are misrepresenting what I said about false claims of others to be believers. I was talking about unrepentant sin patterns in a life, not flawlessly teaching true biblical doctrine. As flawed human beings, we're going to mess something up. HOwever, the Bible DOES teach that a real believer won't be unrepentant about known sin, such as the guy who killed the abortion doctor.

Thanks anyway,
Tim - Oct 17 2003
Got Christ?

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You know, I'm sincerely sorry that you were hurt by institutional religion. I have too! Have I been hurt by other Christians? YES!

But what I focus on is not other people or institutions, but on what Christ did for me...and you. It's not about a "religion" but a Person and a personal relationship with Him.

Haven't you ever thought "there has to be more to life than this?"....that's the God-shaped vacuum that Pascal talked about. It is a space reserved for a connection with Christ!

Tim - Oct 16 2003
Got Christ?

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Again, if you assume that the things around you were made by someone, why do we get mystical about things popping into existence from nothing all on their own?

No one + nothing = everything??? Is that science?

The only "evolution" we can observe is "microevolution" or variation within kind. Just as it says in Genesis, things reproduce "after their own kind".

Where did your computer come from? What it designed? Did "chance" really do all the stuff that we can't do on purpose????

Tim - Oct 16 2003
Got Christ?

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I'd have to check but I believe there is a law of science that blocks eternality of matter.

Besides, please tell me if you do or don't expect things to have a maker?

If your computer had to be designed, why didn't your brain have to be designed? This is just an argument from the lesser to the greater...

Wouldn't you think I was nuts if I said my athlon computer came from nowhere??? Isn't this kind of absurd?

Just curious...

Tim - Oct 16 2003
Got Christ?

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God is a Person, and is an eternal being.

Does space have an end? Is there a brick there that says "the end"? What's past the brick?

We could ask these types of questions all day long.

All I know is that things don't just pop into existence ex nihilo. It'd be NICE but I don't expect it. I could use a new car. Perhaps if I clean my garage out and wait 10 or 20 years, a new chevy will show up from nowhere.

See, we don't live that way because it is absurd!

Thanks,

Tim - Oct 16 2003
Got Christ?

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*you may not use the absence of any evidence that it is there as proof that it doesn't exist*

I believe there is ample evidence from which to draw a conclusion. And, I think it makes far more sense to assume that things we see around us were made...we certainly live our daily routine lives that way, don't we?

Yet even if we assume "no evidence" for God, your statement tells me that you cannot make an assumption that GOd doesn't exist.

Oh, excuse me, a jeep just popped into existence in my driveway...!

Matter doesn't create itself from nothing. Matter is not eternal. God, as a Person, can certainly be eternal. Things have a cause and there must ultimately be an *uncaused cause*.

Again, we don't live that way.

Tim - Oct 16 2003
Got Christ?

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Great! At least I got you to see the silliness of assuming there is no God!

Tim - Oct 16 2003
Got Christ?

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The real problem is lumping all religions together. The term "Christianity" has come to mean just about anyone who isn't muslim, jewish, etc. Americans are lumped together as "Christians".

TRUE Christianity is not an institution. It's not a church. It's a relationship with the risen Christ...and Jesus didn't teach that we should go around killing others...but rather to "love our enemies"...in other words, be willing to meet their needs as if they were our own and die for them if need be, just as Christ did for us.

I have no desire to kill anyone, and the apostle John said in 1 John that "no murder has eternal life". Remember the guy who killed the abortion doctor and was unrepentant all the way to his execution? The bible says his claim to be a Christian is false.

Maybe this will clarify things. Maybe not.

Thanks for your input,

Tim - Oct 16 2003
True Purpose

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Thanks so much for your compliment. Believe me, whatever good you see in me -- the glory belongs to God. There was a day nearly 6 years ago when I wouldn't have responded this way!

Again, many thanks.

Tim - Oct 15 2003
Come To Me...

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You know, I really appreciate your kindness. Thanks!

Tim - Oct 14 2003
True Purpose

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Yessir!

Tim - Oct 14 2003
Come To Me...

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...and I thank you!

Tim - Oct 14 2003
The Exodus -- Fatal Pursuit

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Yup! Thanks for the idea. I guess you didn't get my email; I found this right after I sent the first one...!

Again, thanks!

Tim - Oct 14 2003
The Exodus -- Fatal Pursuit

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Oh, by the way, I guess I'm a *wingnut* too.

*fini* - Oct 14 2003
The Exodus -- Fatal Pursuit

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No, I gave my reason above. Besides, I know you can repost!

Post away!

Tim - Oct 14 2003
Void

Wallpaper Other by alethia 9 comments

"can't you people be religious in private? Most christians seem to expect gays to be gay in private, so why can't we (all non-evangelical-christians) expect the same of you?"


***Most Christians...***

With all due respect, do you know all of them to be able to say this? Are you sure this is an accurate statement??? You tell ME what I think about this, ok? Surely you know my position...don't you?


***Can't you be religious in private?***

Jesus commands us to make it public (Matthew 28, Great Commission)...and to declare the Gospel openly.

Jesus Christ died PUBLICALLY for our sin. Naked. Hanging on a very real cross, with very real spikes through his wrists and feet. He had been scourged and beaten almost beyond recognition. And yet, this Son of God cried out from the cross and forgave those who crucified him...including us, whose sin put him there.

We are not ashamed of Him who gave his life for us. "I am not ashamed of the Gospel, for it is the power of God unto salvation for all who believe, to the Jew first, then to the gentile." (Romans 1:16).

In China, believers are put in prison for privately owning a PAGE of the bible. Is that private enough? In the Sudan, believers have been crucified for not reouncing faith in Christ. Is that restrictive enough?

This is an open submission forum. We post our work here for each other and for those who are interested. We ignore the pornographic paper dolls (both male and female) as well as the occult work, etc...and I'm not aware that any of us has gone on the attack against any of it. We just skip by it with no comment.Certainly, you can make the same choice.

Tim - Oct 13 2003
Void

Wallpaper Other by alethia 9 comments

Hey Chris:

Any such thing as an E-Noogie?

;)

Tim - Oct 13 2003
Void

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Any way you can you crank it up to 1280x1024?

-- Tim - Oct 13 2003
Got Christ?

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Yeah. It's called "Positive Tolerance". It's based on eastern reasoning which throws out logic and the law of non-contradiction. So, instead of "Either/or" it's supposed to be "Both/and".

The only problem is, while they pretend to throw out western reasoning, they use that very system to disqualify it! So, no real "Both/and".

Intellectual suicide for the sake of a political agenda.

Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do.

"Tolerance" isn't even as "tolerant" as the old definition. We believe in "You have the right to believe as you do even if I believe it's wrong". the new "Tolerance" gets rid of the right to dissagree...and if you don't accept that, you're not tolerated!

They want us to "believe what we believe but not practice it". In other words, be a hypocrite!

Tim - Oct 12 2003
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"not in public"...

Why not? Jesus Christ died for my (our) sin in public, nailed to a cross, naked, beaten and scourged beyond recognition. He wasn't ashamed to do that for me (us), and I am not ashamed of Him!

If this offends you, God bless you. I'm not angry at you and if I saw you and you needed help I'd give it to you. But let me quote comedian Brad Stine...

Put a Hemet On!

Tim - Oct 11 2003
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Hi Chris:

You might want to clarify what you mean by "Tolerance".

We define "tolerance" as getting along with someone even if we think they are wrong.

The new definition of tolerance is the notion that we must embrace the viewpoints of others as equally valid...no matter how contradictory they are. It's based on eastern thought...and dumps the laws of logic and non-contradiction...Of course, that door swings but one way...so we have the "intolerance of the 'tolerant'".

Tim - Oct 11 2003
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Well then, all I can do is tell you I wish you well and pray that one day you'll know Christ and not have so much bitterness.

Blessings,

Tim - Oct 10 2003
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No, I already said in my previous post that I don't watch the mainstream media. About the "rape rooms", no, I haven't seen them personally but then I haven't been to China either...but I've heard that there is such a country.

I'll let you guess and wager on your own about what happens here.

I held a job for a number of years at a decent sized secular university. I'm very familiar with the bashing of western society. Have we done wrong things? Yes. Have we grieved God in the past? Yes. No doubt about it. But there are thousands of people who come here every day or week seeking refuge from tyrrany elsewhere.

I have an Iranian Jewish friend who fled Iran because of persecution. Here, he has the freedom to worship as he chooses. People risk death trying to get here by boat from Cuba. If I could, I'd help them.

The thing that those who bash western civilization miss is that at least they have the freedom to say what they think about the government. In China, for example, that wouldn't be allowed. One Chinese guy said "It's funny, in China you can say you don't believe in Darwinian evolution but you can't question the government. In the US you can question the government but you must teach evolution as fact!". Well, he's right. And those who bash the west should instead be thankful they have the freedom to do so. The blood of many paid for it.

I pray for our nation. I pray that God will wake us up to our need for a return to Christ. We've gone way off course. Kids are killing each other (well, if they are tought they are just protoplasm waiting to become manure, why are we surprised if they don't value life?), our judicial system is perverting our laws. I don't see any postive change happening; in fact, from what is going on in the world I think the stage is set for Christ's return sometime in my lifetime. The world scene is certainly coming together for that to happen.

The point is that all these things will pass away. Only that which is eternal will remain. Each individual is put on this earth to make a decision for or against Christ. It is a matter of personal volitional choice. God is looking for those who wish to be with him for eternity and to enjoy him...it won't be a boring existence...but sheer, perpetual joy in the presence of the God who loved us enough to send His Son to die for us. When that time comes, this life will be as consequential as a tiny black dot in the middle of the the Pacific. This life, says the bible, is a mere "vapor". It's here, it passes and it's gone.

So I pray for what's wrong, pray that it will be made right sooner rather than later but focus on what matters; am I ready for eternity?

Thanks,

Tim - Oct 10 2003