cjtown

An example of "eager":
[editing css]
once a semi-colon has been typed, the auto-complete opens (good), but hitting return doesn't start a new line, it enters the first css selector in the auto-complete drop-down (not good).
In situations such as this, where a new line might be desirable, perhaps the user should have to manually select from the list, so the default behaviour for the return key remains a line feed?
There are a couple of other similar, very minor problems with auto-complete:
1. I've often found that an opening div tag fails to generate it's closing counterpart (i.e. no </div>)
2. Once the full name of an attribute has been typed, even if this matches a valid attribute name, the aut-complete drop-down closes: this means that you cannot now hit return and have Quanta automatically insert the ="" for you.

All-in-all though, Quanta is a fantastic app which gets better with every release; so, keep up the good work! - Mar 27 2005

I've got to support the development team on this one: I use Quanta all the time at home because it leaves my code alone and is easily customized (esp. good for keyboard shortcuts etc). I wish I could use it at work (instead of Homesite (Dreamweaver's eccentric cousin).
The one comment I could make about "auto features": the tag-completion is a bit too eager to do its job. Maybe this has been addressed in 3.4? - Mar 27 2005

Thanks you, amiroff, for your generous comments.

Concerning the setting of mimetypes automatically: this has been driving me nuts, too!! As far as I can tell, it is done simply through the naming of the various icon images - some distros like to have different names for various things, I think. Similarly, I think Mandrake picks up on different image types but SuSE (which I use) does not...requiring that to be done manually.

I would echo your request: if anyone knows of (or can write) a guide to this aspect of KDE customisation, I for one would be extremely grateful!

Thanks again for the comments...I'm working on updates! - Jan 19 2005

Thanks for the comments.

A number of people have commented that they think the folders are 'out of style' with the rest of the theme (obviously, I'm quite fond of them myself!) I am therefore doing a new style for these in the next update (coming soon) which will, I hope, be more in keeping with the 'soft' photorealism of the other icons.

If anyone has any other ideas or suggestions as to what sort of thing they would like to see, now is the time to let me know! - Jan 11 2005

hmmm...kde must cache the icon somewhere, but having taken a look through my home cache I couldn't find anything.

A guaranteed way would be:
1. Copy the entire icon theme folder (~/.kde/share/icons/Cezanne) to a new location
2. Change the go.png icons to the images you want.
3. make a tar archive from the folder
4. uninstall Cezanne
5. install your customised cezanne theme from your tar archive.

That's the best I can think of, I'm afraid! - Jan 11 2005

Hi -

the kmenu icon is name 'go.png' and can be found in 'apps' folder. Changing this and restarting KDE should have the desired effect.

Alternatively, if you build the theme from the script version available above you can specify whatever icon you want to use for the kmenu.

Hope that solves the problem!
...more icons coming in January!

Chris - Dec 24 2004

Thanks - it's good to know these things. I use the icons myself at 64x64, which is the size I would recommend them. Obviously not everyone wants or can have them that big....at some point I will be making alternates for the smaller sizes (16x16 up to 48x48). This will probably happen within the next two planned updates....also there will definitely be more application and device icons! - Nov 13 2004

I think what the message is trying to say is that there is no folder icon (i,e. inode/directory) for the icon size 'x' (insert whatever icon size you are trying to set)

Are you using the pre-built or unbuilt theme?

I have been playing around with the index.desktop file in an attempt to reflect the theme contents more accurately but, thinking about it, some of the changes may not be compatible with Maitre's buildset script.

Replacing the index.desktop file with the one from here:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/christopher.townson/index.desktop.tar.bz2
should resolve the problem whilst I get around properly editing the file. (This file can also be downloaded by clicking on the link above)

If the problem persists, please let me know and I'll go away and have a rethink. - Nov 10 2004

thanks for letting me know - I'll investigate. Sounds like it must be something in the index.desktop file (found in the theme's "root" folder) - Nov 10 2004

no probs. Done and done. Will be provided as alternates in the next Cezanne release. - Oct 20 2004

Yes...but please read the following:

[start legalese]

You may use these icons for either commercial or non-commercial purposes with no fee, providing the following conditions are observed:

a) I must be *clearly* credited as the original creator of these icons at an appropriate location(s) wherever they are employed, together with a link (or reference, in the case of offline media) to http://christopher.townson.biz

b) If you make any additional icons which can be considered to be part of the 'theme' or you make any alterations to icons which are currently in the theme, you must, likewise, make them freely available (preferably on this web site), together with the copyright notice detailed in paragraph (a).

[end legalese]

Phew, that's done! I like to think that, on the whole, matters such as this are all fine as long as people observe common sense and decency towards their fellow man...I am, therefore, quite happy for people to use these icons for whatever purpose as long they don't (implicitly or explicitly) attempt to claim they created them, and make it clear who did.

Vis-a-vis commercial use: if you are going to be using them for an organization that can afford to make a donation to my ailing, debt-ridden bank account, I would certainly appreciate that(:D), but I don't demand it. (Please email me at christopher at townson dot biz if you want to donate!)

------ A general message concerning copyright and icon use --------

I am not a lawyer but, as I understand things, the following applies:

For general information: because open-source 'creations' are already publicly available, they are covered under copyright law **except** where a specific alternative contract (such as that detailed above) has been explicitly entered into.

By downloading these icons from this site, you have agreed to enter into the licence contract under which I have made them available.

If you obtain these icons elsewhere (other than kde-look.org) and you don't ask me for permission to reuse them, and I think that you are attempting to abuse the spirit in which the work has been made available (i.e. it contravenes the Artistic 2.0 licence), I am within my rights to enforce standard copyright law. - Oct 13 2004

Yes...but please read the following:

[start legalese]

You may use these icons for either commercial or non-commercial purposes with no fee, providing the following conditions are observed:

a) I must be *clearly* credited as the original creator of these icons at an appropriate location(s) wherever they are employed, together with a link (or reference, in the case of offline media) to http://christopher.townson.biz

b) If you make any additional icons which can be considered to be part of the 'theme' or you make any alterations to icons which are currently in the theme, you must, likewise, make them freely available (preferably on this web site), together with the copyright notice detailed in paragraph (a).

[end legalese]

Phew, that's done! I like to think that, on the whole, matters such as this are all fine as long as people observe common sense and decency towards their fellow man...I am, therefore, quite happy for people to use these icons for whatever purpose as long they don't (implicitly or explicitly) attempt to claim they created them, and make it clear who did.

Vis-a-vis commercial use: if you are going to be using them for an organization that can afford to make a donation to my ailing, debt-ridden bank account, I would certainly appreciate that(:D), but I don't demand it. (Please email me at christopher at townson dot biz if you want to donate!)

------ A general message concerning copyright and icon use --------

I am not a lawyer but, as I understand things, the following applies:

For general information: because open-source 'creations' are already publicly available, they are covered under copyright law **except** where a specific alternative contract (such as that detailed above) has been explicitly entered into.

By downloading these icons from this site, you have agreed to enter into the licence contract under which I have made them available.

If you obtain these icons elsewhere (other than kde-look.org) and you don't ask me for permission to reuse them, and I think that you are attempting to abuse the spirit in which the work has been made available (i.e. it contravenes the Artistic 2.0 licence), I am within my rights to enforce standard copyright law. - Oct 13 2004

I think you both have a point there...
The folders started life as an attempt to produce some customised additions to Dave Brasgalla's 'World of Aqua' theme (available at http://www.iconfactory.com).

The device icons are definitely much more 'my own thing' and go for a softer, daylight-style reflection, rather than a gloss. Also, one of the purposes of Cezanne is to provide an alternative to the default, glossy 'cartoon' style of KDE.

I like the idea of 'paper' style folders. I think that could work well. I loved Everaldo's paper icons. Also Achim Vedam's avXicons (ported to WinXP by kol at http://www.studiotwentyeight.com/) do this style really well...I'll have to visit a stationery shop and stare at folders for a while!

When I have some time, I think I will have a go at reworking a folder. Results will be posted here and on my web site as soon as I get it done.

Thanks for the comments, guys. - Oct 13 2004

Thanks for the feedback. I'm always trying to improve the theme, and I am open to positive criticism such as this.

If you are able, perhaps you could describe in more detail why you think the folders do not fit/how they could be improved? - Oct 11 2004

thanks for letting me know...its difficult for me to test these things 'cos I'm working at 1600x1200 on a 22" monitor (not that I'm complaining about that! :D).
I think many of the icons in this set are best are at least 48x48 (and preferably bigger), so would benefit from having a slightly different version for smaller sizes. I certainly want all the icons to be usable at resolutions used by the majority of people (i.e. 800x600 up to 1024x768)
However, I think I will have to complete the rest of the icon set before I begin to think about beginning that job!

btw: what size do you set your desktop/file manager icons? - Sep 25 2004

sure is! that and thin keramik are the best around. - Sep 24 2004

funky clocks - I love it! The 'temp file' icon looks really great. Will you be doing more along these lines? - Nov 13 2004

thanks. always heartening to know when your work is being appreciated.

vis-a-vis additions to theme: I have just made an update which adds the icons you suggest to both the O'Reilly and Cezanne themes. - Sep 23 2004

absolutely none! I've been having a few problem posting this morning - connection keeps getting broken, and the file accidently got resubmitted 3 times (oops...soory about that!)

I think the duplicates have been deleted now.

C - Aug 27 2004

hmmm...the file should download as a standard tar.bz2

you could try simply changing the extension to this (.tar.bz2) or download the file again. Then, from either kde or command line, you should be able to extract as normal. - Sep 07 2004

[:blush:]! thank you for your very kind comment.

At the moment packaging of the icons has to be done by the end user. This is fairly straightforward: you can use Maitre's "buidlset" script (available on this website) to do all the work. Just read the instructions that come with the script.

A full package of the Cezanne set will be available as soon as the set is complete, which should be in 3-4 months time. In the meantime, please feel free to distribute any packaged set you create if you wish to do so. - Aug 28 2004

...of course, if anyone out there wants to put together a package of the Cezanne icons that have already been released and distribute them on this website, please feel free to do so. - Aug 27 2004

yeah - the hd looking like a cd spindle was pretty much my reservation about it. I tried doing it square and it just wouldn't come out right.

...I like your 'window' idea - I think I might have a crack at that and see how it looks....in my sillier moments what I really want is a tux with his face against the window trying to get out!! hee hee. - Aug 27 2004

...good point. the reasons are as follows:
1. the set is not currently complete and I tend to work on one 'type' of icon, creating them in a batch...this helps to ensure consistency and is just mentally more simple. Until the set is complete, releasing them as 'mimetype' etc enables you to simply extract them into the appropriate folder in your current theme.

2. (the main reason) until the icon set is complete, I'd rather release small packages because I have to distribute anything over 500k from my own web space, whereas kde-look will host anything under this size....this helps to ensure that I don't exceed my bandwidth limit and get charged!!

...so the reason is entirely selfish, for which I apologize. Needless, to say, as soon as I have a set which I think is full enough to constitute an entire 'theme' I will release them as a proper package ready for install.

Hope that explains it. - Aug 27 2004

there is just one niggling thing:

grammar!!

when it is finishing a cd session, it says "fixating..."

...what? is it "obsessed" by the cd?!

but seriously, great work. Keep it up. - Aug 24 2004

sure, absolutely! those rade8 icons are really good and its a great thing you've done putting them together as a theme and distributing them with that funky script. - Jul 25 2004

yeh, great...and two very good choices of artist. I think Las Meninas could look fab!
If you want any of the original source files or templates that I used for these drop me an email (christopher at townson dot biz) - Jul 24 2004

this style is great!!...could you post details on how to get the window decorations pleeeaaassseee!!!! - Oct 24 2003