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pinutnoino

16 years ago

There is nothing about life that ain't political. Linux is political, KDE is political. Saying you don't like something b/c of the idea it expresses is a political statement. Saying you don't like it b/c it lacks style or artistic expression is a whole other issue.

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zipper

16 years ago

Total bullshit. Why not make a screen to support instead of tear down. Get your facts straight.

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iPaqTux

16 years ago

I don't give a damn about the war and can't see why everyone is so worked up about something that has no effect on anyone outside of Iraq. As a wallpaper, however, that one is on par with those piss-poor Christian ones that were posted here a while back.

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gvs

16 years ago

Look guys, the religious wallpapers a while back where not removed, although they did offend some people (including myself).

Note: The wallpaper does not propagate a political OPINION, it is an apology of a journalist that clearly feels he has been had in the Iraq war.

He does not call out against any political party in particular, he is just pointing out that there where no weapons in Iraq, which is an accepted fact by now, and that he has ben lured into thinking that there were.

Again, nothing in his wording takes a political turn, he is stating facts backed by very hard evidence.

That all aside, there are no formal rules about kde-look being a-polical that I know off. Correct me If I'm wrong.

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timothysaddress

16 years ago

Im sorry somone posted such a stupid background

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timothysaddress

16 years ago

Maybe I should make a white backround with plain black text saying "Busch Rules!" lol

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kbeaumont

16 years ago

This "wallpaper" is in fact a thinly disguised political comment. It should also be removed, like the comments were.
Or should we start posting text wallpapers that some may find offensive instead of comments?

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shm

16 years ago

the comments weren't removed.. kde-look just moves it to the previous page.. As yaba said, I voted no to the wallpaper, because, well, it sucks as a wallpaper.

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Linuster

16 years ago

You may not know this, but the KDE community is supposed to be nonpolitical. Political statements in this community, no matter how subtle, are detrimental to our posterity. Everybody please refrain from such abuse in the future for the good of the project.

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Fingel

16 years ago

Could you show me where you found out that this isnt supposed to be a political site?

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kbeaumont

16 years ago

Don't be fooled by election year crap, this is what the previous administration said for years:

We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program.
– President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.
[T]he risk that the leaders of [Iraq] will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security risk we face.
– Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, Feb. 18, 1998.
[We] urge you ... to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.
– Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Tom Daschle, Carl Levin, John Kerry and others, Oct. 9, 1998.
We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.
– Sen. Ted Kennedy, fall, 2002.
We know [Saddam] has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.
– Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has ... a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.
– Sen. Bob Graham (chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee), Dec. 8, 2002.

Did you a actually forget we bombed the hell out of Iraq almost daily for 10+ years? We tried starving them out via sanctions. Because of the belief in WMD we did all that. And you think that removing Saddam a ruthless dictator and restoring trade, no more arial bombings, etc. is a bad idea? Think again, at least now there is a remote possibility that eventually Iraq can get it's house in order and we can leave that hell hole. Unfortunately, I see it becoming another Iran, but at least we gave them an option.

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Emon

16 years ago

chatterbox.

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GNUbie

16 years ago

Emon,
For a history guru you sure are king of the one word replys. With your need to always get the last word I would be willing to bet you are not over 15.

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Yaba

16 years ago

Well, this has been posted to the wallpapers section and therefore it should be judged as a wallpaper and not as a political statement.

WRT a wallpaper I have to say, that it shows no graphical skills nor nice colors. It's just plain black on white and therefore unusable as a wallpaper.

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timothysaddress

16 years ago

Well Why dont you have an opinion? And really thers only two opinions in this matter and even profesionals disagree about it, So It doesnt matter where you are your still always going to see arguments about this when it comes up, You dont have to be a genious to have an opinion on this, I personly believe the war was justified.

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Emon

16 years ago

I didn't say that I don't have an opinion concerning this. But I am not willing to write a fivehundred-page-essay on this topic here. By the way: the "wallpaper" is crap.

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GNUbie

16 years ago

Who would use this POS for wallpaper.
I think I see a tear mark for a signature...

You people baffle me.. you cry and whine when we're not in a war (see WWII). And now you do the same things when we initiate the removal of a dictator whose terror is parallel to that of Hitler. But I guess we should stay out of it until he gets powerful enough to pull a Germany on you, because you always have big brother there to help you out, right?

If the war is about oil, why didnt we take all of it the first time in '91? Why havent we taken it now? Why am I still paying $2.00 a gallon? Maybe because its not about oil?
THINK PEOPLE, THINK....

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Emon

16 years ago

Ah shut up... all of you. Those who don't understand anything of world history and political matters are the greatest chatterboxes. Start studying Middle East history at a University before any of you (and first of all you, GNUbie) start talking crap. I, as a professional historian, always get really frustrated when I see that those who don't know anything simply can't keep their mouth shut. Better start reading a book like e.g. Macchiavelli and Platon before giving stupid comments.

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kbeaumont

16 years ago

So only your opinion counts because you read a book. Books are tainted by opinions too. I was in the AirForce for twenty years and have been throughout the middle east. I've seen terrorist scoping out khobar towers and speeding away in a white chevy caprice before they were caught. They blew up the corner building 2 months later. I can tell you things you won't find in a book, because I lived them and remember.

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Emon

16 years ago

blah blah blah...

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Doches

16 years ago

"Maybe we'll do a better job next war"

So, they get another shot in North Korea?

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peppelorum

16 years ago

There is no oil in North Korea;-)

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ukginger

16 years ago

Tempting to call this wallpaper 'angst' or 'pretentious'.

Its all based upon assumptions, like because the allies have not found any wmd, there was no wmd.

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