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For other evangelical Christians...a great improvement over the original.

"Believe on" is accurate...from the KJV...which was chosen over other translations due to the faithfulness to the original idea; that of trusting, not just intellectual ascent.

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15 years ago

Replaced "glowing steel" effect with regular drop shadow.

Added second paper.

jinksys

15 years ago

99 percent of religious people are peaceful and their religions are peaceful. 9-11 was not the result of religion, it was the result of hate. Hatred of what America stands for, and hatred that you are not forced to be any one thing in america. They hate our money, power and even somethings we dont entirely agree with - our women parading around on TV with their tits hanging out. You never see a Jahova's witness hijacking busses or a buddist running an anti-muslim website. These kinds of people are going to hate with or without religion. I would also like to know where you got that number...out of your ass? Ya know, racism also causes alot of pain and violence in the world. What should we do about that? Obviously you arent about tolerance, you are about censorship. Lets censor color! See how idiotic your logic is? we do.

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Fingel

15 years ago

The only way to stop racism is to educate people aobut different cultures. The problem is that its not happening. I'm in the American school system, and we don't learn jack shit about anybody but Americans. I know other contries have improved on this, but others still have'nt. Its a good thing that I read books and listen to foriegn music.

They hate what America stands for. So do I! But you don't see me hijacking planes do you? Those people come from a culture with a bloody past. The way they get things done is different than we do. We tend to like to do everything without getting our hands dirty, from far away, while others are willing to give thier lives up for a cause.

Did I ever say 80% of the people who were religious were violent? No. I said that many of these wars and disputes are caused by people that are religious. I'm sorry If I confused you. And if your wondering where I got this number, just look a few posts up please.

First of all, you don't know me. You have no basis to judge me. I do tolerate. I have religious people around me every single day. I respect them and if they ask for a debate I will give it to them. I am not for censorship. I indulge in the right so say whatever I want, just like I am right now. But when some guy decides to post some really shitty art work he should be prepared to get flamed. If you noticed the first comment on this item, it is me and I say nothing about religion. Its only when the rest of this garbage started that I jumped in.

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Superstoned

15 years ago

100% of these "caused by religion" problems whould be there without religion too, cuz religion is just used by ppl to cover up for there narow-mindedness.

"keep religion to yourself" - why? You dont want everybody to keep their opinions on whatever to theirselves, exept religion... thats not fair... I can say whatever I want, exept when it is about religion? c'mon...

Lets create a poll "does God exist" ;-)
Yes
No
I dunno
You can prove He does
You can prove he does not
You can't prove nor disprove His existence (I'd vote this one, it is, at least according to modern fillosofy, true)

btw I dont really believe that much myself, but I LOVE human freedom (of speech, and in every other aspect)

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lazychris2000

15 years ago

I partially agree with superstoned on this one...these 'religion caused problems' would still be there without religion...I beleive that 80% of the world's problems are caused by stupidity and closed-mindedness, not by religion. Being a Christian, i have always been taught that tolerance and understanding is the way to avoid conflict. If you want to post pro-satan walpapers, go for it, im just gonna skip over it because i find it offensive, which is what most of you guys should do with Tim's wallpaper. just ignore it, and keep browsing...

and, Fingel, what do you mean by "if everyone was buddah instead of these blood thirsty westerized religions, this world would be a much more peacefull place." ?

btw, place my vote on yes.

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timbrown527

15 years ago

Hi Chris:

You might want to clarify what you mean by "Tolerance".

We define "tolerance" as getting along with someone even if we think they are wrong.

The new definition of tolerance is the notion that we must embrace the viewpoints of others as equally valid...no matter how contradictory they are. It's based on eastern thought...and dumps the laws of logic and non-contradiction...Of course, that door swings but one way...so we have the "intolerance of the 'tolerant'".

Tim

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lazychris2000

15 years ago

Tim-
you pretty much summed it up with "tolerance is the notion that we must embrace the viewpoints of others as equally valid"

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timbrown527

15 years ago

Yeah. It's called "Positive Tolerance". It's based on eastern reasoning which throws out logic and the law of non-contradiction. So, instead of "Either/or" it's supposed to be "Both/and".

The only problem is, while they pretend to throw out western reasoning, they use that very system to disqualify it! So, no real "Both/and".

Intellectual suicide for the sake of a political agenda.

Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do.

"Tolerance" isn't even as "tolerant" as the old definition. We believe in "You have the right to believe as you do even if I believe it's wrong". the new "Tolerance" gets rid of the right to dissagree...and if you don't accept that, you're not tolerated!

They want us to "believe what we believe but not practice it". In other words, be a hypocrite!

Tim

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timbrown527

15 years ago

I really appreciate your support! Thanks!

Let me say though, that you *won't* prove the existence of God via philosophy. Neither will you do it via science. As a matter of fact, one of the most frustrating things I've run into are those who view it as one or the other.

As a Christian, I deal with evidences. You make a verdict on the evidences, just as in any court of law. People, for one reason or another, really have difficulty grasping this.

You can BEGIN with philosphy, but it will only get you so far.

You can use Science, but it will only get you so far.

But the CORE is going to be based on historical/archaeological evidence (Boy, I've said this a thousand times!).

The Christian faith is built on the claims of Christ to be who He was, as well as His death and Ressurrection.

Ok, to many that sounds like *Kiddy Easter egg stuff*. Well, we have a myriad of *Secular* sources of Jesus' day that testify he was alive. The same sources also testify that he was, in fact, crucified. Other sources also verify that the tomb was *empty* shortly thereafter.

Now, I am smart enough to realize that if I say "It's true because the Bible says it" someone will say "Circular Reasoning". Please let me say two thins to this: Secular sources for history and archaeolgy have shown the scriptures as accurate. As a matter of fact, a guy by the name of Sir William Ramsay set out to DESTROY the reliability of the Scriptures. He went to work on the Gospel of Luke. Instead of destroying Luke, he became a follower of Jesus Christ and reported that "Luke is an historian of the first order". that is a rough quote but very close.

Secondly, in any court of Law, a defendant is allowed to speak in his/her own defense. That's not circular...and the testimony is open to examination, just as in Christianity.

Archaeology has also verified the claims of the Bible. Things are dug up, and they are where the Bible said they would be. Skeptics used to say that Solomon never lived, nor David. They called them "Myth". Then archaeologists came along and dug up stuff that had to belong to a very weatlthy person and found references to SOLOMON. *Ding*. Same kind of thing for David.

Remember Pharoah's army "chasing" the hebrews and how they were killed in the Red Sea? Well, we now know of a find *in* the Red Sea; a ton of egyptian chariots, INCLUDING one that had trim as the Pharoah's would have. *Ding*

...and this is only a couple examples. Science is also involved in verifying these things.

Philosophy? Well, maybe the best way to use this is as a starting point...

I know that in day-to-day life, I EXPECT things to be made by someone. If I want cheese, i go to the store and buy it from someone who *made it*. If I want an SUV I don't wait for one to appear in my drive, I know I have to go to the dealer who got one from a FACTORY.

We don't live our daily lives philosophically as those who say something comes from nothing by noone. I have a computer in front of me. If I told you it just "came into being" you'd *rightly* say I was nuts. Yet, the HUMAN MIND is VASTLY more complex...and if we say it was designed, people go nuts!

So maybe you can see where I'm going.

Anyway, thanks!

Tim

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Fingel

15 years ago

No, I have to disagree. You really think the crusades, 911 wold have happened anyway? No, its because of conflicting religions. To certain muslims, we are a bunch of sinners and we must pay for it. They thing God is on thier side, we think it is on ours. That is why I dislike religion.

Praise the lord and pass the ammunition.

Now on the other hand, if everyone was buddah instead of these blood thirsty westerized religions, this world would be a much more peacefull place.

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timbrown527

15 years ago

Let me quickly add too that 9/11 was not a result of an act of people in a *westernized* religion but rather those in Islam who take a literal view of 'Jihad'.

I'm sure this wasn't intentional, but I wanted to point that out.

Thanks,
Tim

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Fingel

15 years ago

Ok that last post you made had pretty much nothing to do with what I just said. Anyway, I read one thing "Those who live in western society should be thankfull that they can express thier ideas about the government"
Yeah well then again you can do that in Canada too, and when was the last time someone wanted to destroy them? When was the last time Canada caused collateral damage overseas without its citizens even knowing or caring? Thats why I'm moving to Canada once I get my car, that is, in about 3 years (when I'm 18). Ah yes Canada, a cleaner, nicer, less violent, socialist, no Bush...

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timbrown527

15 years ago

Well then, all I can do is tell you I wish you well and pray that one day you'll know Christ and not have so much bitterness.

Blessings,

Tim

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Fingel

15 years ago

No I am not alluding to Iraq, but the many country's we have "justified" over the years.

I don't watch the news. Insead I get my news off gnn.tv and other such sites. If you take the "rape rooms" so seriously, then you must also be reading mainstream media. Have you seen these for yourself? Also, what makes you so sure this does not happen in the good 'ol US of A? I'll bet my linux box that it does. I don't know where the catholic priests raped the children, it could have been in a room. ok cheap shot. But really, what the news says is the "eveilist damn country full of evildoers" is no better or worse than any other countries in thier situation. Cambodia anyone?

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timbrown527

15 years ago

No, I already said in my previous post that I don't watch the mainstream media. About the "rape rooms", no, I haven't seen them personally but then I haven't been to China either...but I've heard that there is such a country.

I'll let you guess and wager on your own about what happens here.

I held a job for a number of years at a decent sized secular university. I'm very familiar with the bashing of western society. Have we done wrong things? Yes. Have we grieved God in the past? Yes. No doubt about it. But there are thousands of people who come here every day or week seeking refuge from tyrrany elsewhere.

I have an Iranian Jewish friend who fled Iran because of persecution. Here, he has the freedom to worship as he chooses. People risk death trying to get here by boat from Cuba. If I could, I'd help them.

The thing that those who bash western civilization miss is that at least they have the freedom to say what they think about the government. In China, for example, that wouldn't be allowed. One Chinese guy said "It's funny, in China you can say you don't believe in Darwinian evolution but you can't question the government. In the US you can question the government but you must teach evolution as fact!". Well, he's right. And those who bash the west should instead be thankful they have the freedom to do so. The blood of many paid for it.

I pray for our nation. I pray that God will wake us up to our need for a return to Christ. We've gone way off course. Kids are killing each other (well, if they are tought they are just protoplasm waiting to become manure, why are we surprised if they don't value life?), our judicial system is perverting our laws. I don't see any postive change happening; in fact, from what is going on in the world I think the stage is set for Christ's return sometime in my lifetime. The world scene is certainly coming together for that to happen.

The point is that all these things will pass away. Only that which is eternal will remain. Each individual is put on this earth to make a decision for or against Christ. It is a matter of personal volitional choice. God is looking for those who wish to be with him for eternity and to enjoy him...it won't be a boring existence...but sheer, perpetual joy in the presence of the God who loved us enough to send His Son to die for us. When that time comes, this life will be as consequential as a tiny black dot in the middle of the the Pacific. This life, says the bible, is a mere "vapor". It's here, it passes and it's gone.

So I pray for what's wrong, pray that it will be made right sooner rather than later but focus on what matters; am I ready for eternity?

Thanks,

Tim

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Fingel

15 years ago

But have we not become infadels? Turn on your tv and actually watch it, if you can bear it. Barely dressed women selling us swim wear. Sexual refrences in shampoo commercials. MTV (need I explain?) Porn. Money money money.

Now watch the news, the president has bombed another country most Inhabitants of the United States can't even pronouce ( I don't say "American" and I don't know wny people do, America extends from Chile all the way up to Canada). We supply military aid to another, then leave another corrupt leader in charge. And the worst part, most of us just suck it all in, without question.

If another country invaded your home, changed your governement, killed your people, sucked the recources out and then left it in pieces, would you not say that this is against the bible? And the American people wonder why they hate us?

Unfourtunaly, most poeple outside our country view our culture as it is portrayed in television and government, not the actaul american people. It is hard for them to differenciate between the two, so we really have sinned in thier eyes, and we must suffer.

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timbrown527

15 years ago

But have we not become infadels? Turn on your tv and actually watch it, if you can bear it. Barely dressed women selling us swim wear. Sexual refrences in shampoo commercials. MTV (need I explain?) Porn. Money money money.
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Yes, pure filth and greed. Mainly greed, using filth to get money. I agree!
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Now watch the news,
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The major news networks are not reliable; If you watch CSPAN while the House is getting stuff done, then watch the news, you'll see what I mean. I was out of work in 1994 and during that time I got a belly full of it.
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If another country invaded your home, changed your governement, killed your people, sucked the recources out and then left it in pieces, would you not say that this is against the bible? And the American people wonder why they hate us?


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Well, you are alluding to Iraq? If so, you must be getting this stuff from the mainstream media.

You haven't mentioned the torture/rape rooms, the plastic shredders through which people were killed *feet first*. If not, I'm not surprised if you are referring to TV reports.

I get my news from other sources; such as http://www.worldnetdaily.com and Salem Radio News.

The stuff on TV is pure brainwashing. Again, I got an eyefull of this back in 1994 simply comparing what I SAW congress do and what they SAID congress did.

So, our TV is used for watching movies!

Thanks,
Tim

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timbrown527

15 years ago

Hello!

While I certainly appreciate your viewpoint, and why you would think that way, I would mention that the atrocities that you refer to (and are usually pointed to) were not done by what the SCRIPTURES refer to as Christians.

Just recently the government put to death a guy who *professed* to be a Christian, and murdered an abortion doctor. He was unrepentant for that act all the way to his execution.

What does the Bible say? It says that such a person is making a false claim (1 John).

People can gather *under a banner* and do something in the name of what's on that banner but doing so is not what makes one a Christian.

The term *Christian* was first used as an insult to the followers of Christ at Antioch (Acts). It means *little Christ* or a "Christ One". It was pointed directly at those who had become *Born Again* per the Scriptures. These were the early believers who were showing evidence of their *Genuine* faith through OBEDIENCE to God and His Word.

Unfortunately, "Christian" has come to mean just about anything, and therefore nothing. Christianity started in Israel, not the west. Jesus Christ was Jewish by blood.

We now lump mormons, catholics and most protestants together as "Christians". There is really no other way to describe this as just plain *wrong*.

You know, you can call yourself a feminist, and kill someone and it will make feminism look bad...but you can just *say* you are a feminist to be popular. That doesn't make you one. It's where your mind, emotions and will are. THAT is what you are...because *as a man thinks in his HEART, so is he".

Jesus said cleary in Matthew 7 that many on the Day of judgement will say "Lord, did we not..." (Do this or that in your Name?). "...And I will say to them, "Depart from me, you evil doers."

Lumping things together is a neat way to deal with things. It also is done when someone doesn't understand how the groups differ. Unfortunately, the MISuse of the term *Christian* has fed this.

But a *Genuine* Christian is something far different.

Thanks for the input,

Tim

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timbrown527

15 years ago

Thanks Abe! Although I "heard you the first time"!...(referencing the four *accidental* posts).

I'm tempted to go on, but I won't. Maybe some other time. But thanks for your encouragement. It's a nice change from Ad Hominem attacks!

Blessings,

Tim

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abe

15 years ago

Can't anyone post anything here? Why on earth would ANYONE make a huge deal out of this? There is much more offensive stuff put out here. QUOTE: What problems are you talking about!? If you don't like these wallpapers nobody's forcing you to view them. I am a Christian and I respect the guts timbrown has to stand up for what he believes. KUDOS to you timbrown!!

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abe

15 years ago

Can't anyone post anything here? Why on earth would ANYONE make a huge deal out of this? There is much more offensive stuff put out here. QUOTE: What problems are you talking about!? If you don't like these wallpapers nobody's forcing you to view them. I am a Christian and I respect the guts timbrown has to stand up for what he believes. KUDOS to you timbrown!!

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abe

15 years ago

Can't anyone post anything here? Why on earth would ANYONE make a huge deal out of this? There is much more offensive stuff put out here. QUOTE: What problems are you talking about!? If you don't like these wallpapers nobody's forcing you to view them. I am a Christian and I respect the guts timbrown has to stand up for what he believes. KUDOS to you timbrown!!

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crazypenguin

15 years ago

I cannot believe that so many people seem to be in favor of shuting this guy up. I personally dislike the wallpaper: it looks ugly and I disagree with the message.
However, this does NOT give me the right to try to censor the guy. If we are to call ourselves members of the open-source community it's time to start acting like it: be OPEN-minded people.

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gvs

15 years ago

Censorship is indeed a dangerous thing... but there is a place for everything.
This kind of content should not be banned from the web, as nudity should not be banned from it.
This not mean that it should be allowed everywhere, I think nudity and religion should not be on general sites like kde-look, those who want it can go to specific sites.
I think that all people should be able to come here, inlcuding children. I would not want my children (if I had them yet) to watch pornography, and I would not want them exposed to religous material when their minds are still vulnerable to manipulation.

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skirst

15 years ago

I don't believe censorship is ever the answer. But I also believe that it is irresponsible to post these sorts of things here. Keep your religions to yourselves people. A public forum such as this is not the place for it. There are plenty of more appropriate places out there where you can talk about jesus, satan or [insert diety here].

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timbrown527

15 years ago

"not in public"...

Why not? Jesus Christ died for my (our) sin in public, nailed to a cross, naked, beaten and scourged beyond recognition. He wasn't ashamed to do that for me (us), and I am not ashamed of Him!

If this offends you, God bless you. I'm not angry at you and if I saw you and you needed help I'd give it to you. But let me quote comedian Brad Stine...

Put a Hemet On!

Tim

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15 years ago

Replaced "glowing steel" effect with regular drop shadow.

Added second paper.

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