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VeeDubb

15 years ago

First I must say that no person with a good working knowledge of history could believe in the idea this picture promotes, and i voted for Bush. Actualy it would be more accurite to say I voted 'against' Kerry, but that's a whole other topic.

All that being said, I think it's insane and wrong to censor this. The key to a free society is that we must defend that which we find most heinous.

To believe in free speach is to defend the right of another, to preach at the top of their lungs, that which you would spend your whole life preaching against at the top of your lungs. Only then is there freedom. (paraphased, Michael Douglas in "The Amercian President.")

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MMax

15 years ago

I believe that US is a long time not anymore the promised land of dreams. Not because of the people but because of the US goverment.

You peolple should see movies: Bowling For Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11. Those who didn't see them yet, go see them and the argument!

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VeeDubb

15 years ago

Regardless of whether or not you agree with Michael Moore, there is absolutely nothing of substantive value in either of those documentaries. They are works of fantasy and pure propoganda. While I agree with some of the things he believes, the man is an idiot.

Telling a person to go see Farenhiet 911 is about as usefull as telling them to whatch the anti moore propaganda film FarenHYPE 911. Both are worthless pieces of sophomoric drivel.

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gg3po

15 years ago

Actually, I tend to feel the problem for both Americans, and Europeans alike, is the fact that they watch *too many* movies and don't read enough books (preferably of the non-fiction variety) :-)

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Superstoned

15 years ago

if you could enhance the pic a bit more, like make the skull fit a bit better (the skull looks to the left, bush to the right, isnt it?)

I'd love it..

:D

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VeeDubb

15 years ago

Hate the mesage, but i agree artistiacly. It looks like this was made by simply superimposing a couple of layers in GIMP or some similar program. I think it would be much more effective if you flipped the skull (or Bush, doesn't matter) about the vertical axis so they are looking the same way, and then line them up. Of course, then you might have to reduce transparency of the faces just a tad to bring them up through that murky red foreground, but i think overall, it would improve it's effectiveness greatly.

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aunzim

15 years ago

before i saw the wallpaper i thougth in the same word... who should be removed is not only bush but also the multinational evils who support death economy

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mikkoloo

15 years ago

to the guy that said "if you live in another country, care about your own"

well, sure.. thing is bush politics affects the entire world. would be wrong not to care if you do care about world peace and the security of us all. and its like not helping a girl that beeing raped, i sure as hell would help her..

i like the wallpaper, its a personal view of something and should not be removed, cause then where is the great freedom of speech?

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sequitur

15 years ago

I agree about freedom of speech. I fully support it. That doesn't mean that all exercises of that freedom are not asinine, idiotic and in poor taste.

KDE sites are not the place to discuss politics so I won't go into a diatribe on how terribly skewed I think this is. As an American though I can say that a majority of Americans who voted this month do not share this view. Perhaps a study of history might help to understand real practitioners of genocide and tyranny and not some trendy "me too" scapegoat.

The perfect world where nobody suffers consequences does not exist. We could easily extend the absurdities to Ben and Jerry's ice cream for those who die of obesity or the medical community for bungling and killing people. How about the pharmaceutical companies? Dead is dead, right? After all what do you care about why your loved ones are dead?

My mother died of a blood clot the day after visiting a doctor who knew she was at extremely high risk for several circumstances my research shows any idiot in first year med school should know. Yet she was not prescribed an anti-coagulant. Does this doctor stand for death? It would be easy to take it personally as I miss her every day but in fact my mother should have also known her risk factors and my being angry with her doctor serves no purpose... So I got over it.

People you love will die for stupid reasons. Everyone is loved by someone. Add up the number of people who died at the hands of leaders throughout history and Bush comes in very low. For the US for example more deaths happened because of decisions by FDR, Eisenhour, Truman, JFK, Johnson, Nixon and Bush Sr. Truman was the only world leader to ever use nuclear weapons. As horrible as that was historians estimate it saved millions of lives on both sides ending WWII. None of these American presidents have had people lined up, mass murdered and put in mass graves. Other leaders do not come off so well, like Joe Stalin who killed 30 million of his own people because he was paranoid. Too bad it's not as trendy to focus on genocidal maniacs as the popularly elected leader of the country that started a domino effect in self government. At least we can be grateful many despots and their regimes have been removed from power, in many cases by resolute American presidents, leaving less who truly stand for death.

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elektroschock

15 years ago

It is intresting to see how an awful picture creates some useful discussion.

Anyway Eric, the times of The great mass murders(tm) are gone. And there is no excuse for today's mistakes by the deadly policy of the past.

Your president made huge mistakes in foreign policy that are not that much overseen at home. They reduced the moral credibility of your nation. Propaganda of this worst kind is totally inappropriate anyway and I don't want to get used to it. I don't want to see the leading nation of the western hemisphere depicted like this. I don't like anti-bush bashing despite my respect for freedom of speech.

I do not want to take over his job because you have to make decisions on life and death. And when the American democracy approves this policy the American people are responsible for what happens today not the person elected.

Hope Quanta will not ever kill :-)

In a democracy you are responsible for what your representative does in your name. So don't blame him.

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oreomasta

15 years ago

"oh yeah i just curious why you think it sucks
wonderin.."

I know the question wasn't addressed to me, but I figured I'd chime in on it.

First of all I think it sucks because it looks like to took all of 10 minutes to make. Did you just layer 3 images and work with transparency? That's all I'm seeing; please correct me if I'm wrong.

Second, a background about a president on a website about KDE? I'm with the crowd that hates political propaganda and vacation pics on here.

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nuka

15 years ago

i agree with the wall, but i agree with what you said here.

NO MORE WALLPAPERS!!!

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kairo

15 years ago

so if i live in my country and i dont think whats going on isnt right i should just shut up and accept huh




i not saying right now i can make much of a change but i feel the need to express my opinion and if things are wrong why should people accept it fully change happens becasue people want it to in cases like these

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kairo

15 years ago

freedom of speech i live here i dont approve of what bush is doing hes responsiple for killing innocent people just like the 9/11 attacks and other thing america has done i just think even though were a superpower and some things are going good is there somthing wrong with saying that there is some bad and i think it's not right we should be better bush is not doing it like it should be done

its like sayin there is two guys standing next to eachother and onedid somthing wrong and runs away why should we focus on killing the guy that just stood there especially when in doing that means killing thousands of people america should stand for freedom and doing the right thing and i see we as americans doing the wrong thing and bush is our president i feel that we should and shouldnt but were in it and i think that someone of greatness could hvae done it better and that bush is doing good at was hes doing but the reason for why hes doing it is seemingly deceptive and corrupt

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kairo

15 years ago

i dont want to live somwhere else i want my country to not be thought of as a lying corrupt evil country for what is happening evn though its happened before doesnt mean i cant say that i think times must change i support my country i just dont support how things are giong i want it to be better

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kairo

15 years ago

please reply

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jmiahman

15 years ago

Alright you want to talk about mess. Let's talk about NY on 9/11 who created that. Let's talk about the mutilated child I met in Iraq because his father wasn't a sadaam supporter. You want attention, you think you know something. Don't Post it here I would encourage the site Admin to remove this, it's not only offensive but it underminds the hard work of thousands, millions. Bush is president if you Live in the US and you hate it that much I'm sure some third world country would be proud to take you in. If you don't live in the US worry about your own country.

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aunzim

15 years ago

Who created 9/11 was the politics that finance armed groups (like the USA financed Al Qaeda in the 80's to figth the URSS), or finance dictators (like hussein to gaseate the kurds with old good american gas.) A despot without money is as poor sun of a b*tch. And the list of dictactor "friend os USA" is so big (especially in Latin America) that it seems impossible to me to believe that:

1. The american people doesn't realize his guilty on half wars in the world

2. That they are a so call democracy

Should read Chomsky

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nuka

15 years ago

according to a poll in NY, more people are(were) afraid of bush getting another 4 years than they were afraid of another terrorist attack.

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ciasa

15 years ago

So, if you live in the US and you don't support the president, your only choices are to be quiet or to move to a different country?


Fuck that. Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean that _your_ opinion is any better. Telling someone they need to leave the country because their political opinion doesn't match yours is just asinine.

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kairo

15 years ago

i just made a wallpaper on what i think of when i think of him. we made him president again mostly i think beacuase people want to see him finnish the mess he created somewhat. im not politally motivated there has been worse and better leaders but it is my country and my vote did nothing at same time i almost want him more than kerry but is a complex situation either way even though other people have done much worse, killing of innocents is wrong and its not wrong to say that that is what yu belive

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kairo

15 years ago

oh yeah i just curious why you think it sucks
wonderin..

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manchot

15 years ago

Well... As I'm French, I can say I really don't like Bush and its government (which doesn't mean I don't like American people), but as I am not american, it's not to me (and may be not to you) to decide if he deserves or not being President.

American people made their choice, and most of them voted for him, which means they decided he deserves being President, and which means that he probably did a good job for them too (at least better than he is doing for the world).

That's called democracy, and you have to respect that.

Clearly, your wallpaper sucks, because its propaganda. It's the same thing that claimed Linux users were communists, the same thing that killed millions of people over the last decades.

If he is really doing wrong, I hope American people or the ICT will bring him in front of justice, and that he'll have to pay for its acts, but kde-look is not the place for such considerations!

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